Watch Linda Yaccarino’s wild interview on the Code Convention

On Wednesday night, X CEO Linda Yaccarino appeared on stage on the Code Convention with frustration and protest. “I believe many individuals on this room weren’t absolutely ready for me to nonetheless come out on the stage,” she advised interviewer Julia Boorstin, senior media and tech correspondent at CNBC.

Yaccarino sounded rattled. She’d discovered earlier within the day that Kara Swisher, a Code Convention co-founder, had booked a shock visitor to seem an hour earlier than her: Yoel Roth, Twitter’s former head of belief and security. He has been an outspoken critic of the route Elon Musk has taken the location.

In his interview with Swisher, Roth recounted how Musk put him personally in peril. Musk instructed on Twitter that Roth had advocated for sexualizing youngsters — a very unfounded declare — which led to loss of life threats and his deal with being posted on-line. “I needed to promote my home. I needed to transfer,” Roth mentioned. He inspired Yaccarino to consider how Musk might activate her, too, and mentioned the location was bleeding customers and advertisers.

These criticisms are nothing new, however Yaccarino was visibly bothered by having to seem shortly after a well known critic of her firm. “I’d be completely happy to reply,” Yaccarino mentioned. “I believe I’ve been given about 45 minutes [notice].” The convention’s 300-some seat ballroom was packed for her look; I caught Swisher reclining on a sofa within the again earlier than issues kicked off, ready to see the outcomes of her shock play out.

All through the interview, Yaccarino repeated that she’s solely been on the job at X for 12 weeks, as if to say there’s solely a lot she might have carried out by now. However in that point, she’s managed to do one factor constantly: dismiss issues about X, whether or not it’s the platform’s disinvestment sparsely or Musk’s chaotic management.

Her dismissive stance was very a lot on show Wednesday evening. She wrote off Roth’s claims in regards to the platform’s efficiency as outdated (“I work at X, he labored at Twitter,” she mentioned); she mentioned the Anti-Defamation League — which Musk is threatening to sue — pays an excessive amount of consideration to the anti-Semitism on X and never sufficient to the enhancements the platform has made; and she or he argued that regardless of the panic round advertisers fleeing, most of the massive ones are coming again.

These weren’t satisfying solutions for those who’re an individual who thinks Musk is destroying Twitter or stoking harassment. However they had been, for essentially the most half, assured solutions. Yaccarino answered slowly and punctiliously, and she or he appeared decided to push the complaints apart as merely collateral harm for reinventing the platform.

“X is a brand new firm constructing a basis based mostly on free expression and freedom of speech,” she mentioned initially.

Boorstin prodded Yaccarino for exhausting numbers on how X is doing amid all these crises. Yaccarino mentioned the corporate can be worthwhile “in early ’24.” The platform has 200-250 million day by day lively customers. “One thing like that,” Yaccarino mentioned. She went to verify her telephone, as if to verify the quantity, however by no means completed checking. Later, she instructed that X has 540 million month-to-month lively customers and 225 million day by day lively customers. (That will be barely down from the 238 million day by day customers Twitter had earlier than the acquisition.)

It was exhausting to know whether or not Yaccarino wasn’t ready sufficient or if she merely didn’t need to give definitive solutions. At one level, Boorstin requested about Musk’s latest assertion that X will finally cost all customers to put up on the platform, and Yaccarino appeared unable to talk to the proposed change.

“Are you able to repeat?” Yaccarino requested.

“Elon Musk introduced you’re transferring to a wholly subscription based mostly service,” Boorstin mentioned. “Nothing free about utilizing X.”

“Did he say we had been transferring to it particularly or is considering it?” Yaccarino requested.

“He mentioned that’s the plan,” Boorstin mentioned. “Did he seek the advice of you earlier than he introduced that?”

“We discuss every little thing,” Yaccarino mentioned. She by no means clarified X’s plans.

The interview was stuffed with rocky moments like this, however Yaccarino didn’t run. Because the clock ran out on the interview, Boorstin mentioned she would let Yaccarino keep so long as she needed — and Yaccarino took her up on it. Even when Yaccarino lastly mentioned she wanted to depart, she caught round for a number of extra questions. At near 40 minutes, it was the longest interview of the convention.

It was a protracted dialog and a much more sophisticated one than Yaccarino could have needed to have. On the prime of the interview, she tried to push apart issues about X with a press release of confidence. “It’s a brand new day at X, and I’ll go away it at that,” she mentioned.

However it might by no means be that straightforward. So long as Musk is within the combine, she’ll all the time want extra time to clarify no matter’s occurring at X.